Do you mean FF and SYL? If so, well I think that for example songs like Love? by SYL and Drones and Slave Labor by FF are all about rhythm, they are constructed upon the bassdrum and the riffs focus more on rhythm than actual notes (Drones for example has the main riff that is based around 2 notes). Just imagine them played on a 8 string guitar and with polys and you'll have something similar to Meshuggah.

So um, Clair Cassis, guys? It's from those Velvet Cacoon guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m0Q9MmH ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oVCNF3FYmw


Tell me how that isn't metal. It's essentially VC with better production.

Mmm but anyway.. Meshuggah is in the encyclopedia... post thrash metal. accepted
And the modarators don't say that the wierd rhythims are forbidden.. the only forbidden things are the Non metal things.

Bands usually do not get blacklisted for this but Clair Cassis' album is not out yet.

You rejected this band OTTAR (Indonesia) for lack of Physical release.
But if you had clicked on the image you could see that it is a scan and not a photoshop jpeg.

http://pilgrimagetothedark.blogspot.com ... -2005.html

I know there's not much info but that scan is more than enough.mistake?

Resubmit.

ok, thanks

Folks, he's got a point here. That video on youtube is as metal as the average mallcore song.

Thank you. Also, I remember Witcher saying that Meshuggah are only on the site because of their demo, EP & "Contradictions Collapse".

would it then not be best to add such an information to the band sites? Would this not help to avoid the confusion about "why is band X here and Y not"? A clear reference to turn to in case someone questions the 'metalness' of a band?

I suggested something similar a few years ago, but without a response. I too think that bands that changed their style away from metal should universally have a "accepted based on x" note in the additional notes. Especially cases which are brought up all the time, such as Discharge or Ministry (both of which I think actually have something like I suggested in a rudimentary form already, many other bands don't).

Yes, if the moderators don't consider later Meshuggah metal, it should be written on their MA page, and the genre should be also changed, e.g. "Technical-Post thrash" (early), "dunnowhat" (later). Same for Fredrik Thordendal Special Defects, which is very similar to later Meshuggah and is listed as "Experimental/Industrial Thrash Metal". Also, there are some bands similar (some almost identical) to later day Meshuggah here on MA...but they are here and listed as metal.

No, you did not -- contrary to Entilzha -- grasp what I was trying to point towards. In this thread users constantly complain about the reasons for rejecting their submissions. Their argument follows: "A is in here, but B not ... this is absurd." Then borderline bands like SunnO))) or other [s]obscure[/s] ones are used as valid arguments to back up their claim. The confusion arouses from the bad -- sorry -- genre system of the site; and you just have to take a look at your own post to grasp some of it.

What is early? What is later? Which albums are these? Where are the metal Meshuggah albums? Especially annoying -- sorry again -- are those bands whose genre field is labelled as 'Various'; it is a hollow term. Currently, the only way to really deal with this issue is to present some additional information on the genre of the bands and to specify which of the releases are considered metal by MA standards. Genre tags per album are the best solution of course, but I do not see such a thing added here in the short term.

Actually, yes it is. Submit/resubmit them. The vinyl is out on Starlight Temple Society.

I've removed them from the blacklist.

I've gotten the following message "Album not out until April." for Solution .45's For Aeons Past even though I specified a japanese release that has been out since March 24th. The album is already on sale: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=MICP-10910
Does that not count as a physical release?

Resubmit.

I suggested genre tags for specific albums a while back. Should be in the V2 thread somewhere. It would be nice not only for making it clear which albums are those that got the band accepted onto the archives but also just for general information for bands that changed styles.

Rivologi:

Raw Black Metal:
http://westsounds.com/Rivologi/Demo_1/mp3/2618842

Physical proof:
http://i41.tinypic.com/zmldgz.jpg

Label webpage:
http://koti.welho.com/zdiamo/

Resubmit.

The band appears on the black list and it is not possible to resubmit.

Looks like it's been removed now. Try to resubmit again.

Dudes come on, after resubmitting as you suggested I still get this:

"Either there is a lack of information, or this band has no apparent discography. Please see rule #7. If this band has indeed released anything and you can show us proof, you can resubmit it again."

It's a Japanese release, it's out already.

There are lots of moderators working on the queue. If you don't clearly specify in your submission that the album is already released in Japan, you'll have it rejected if the mod didn't check the thread (which he is not compelled to, you have to give all the info for the mod who'll review your submission).

band Geriht change genre into Depressive Black metal/Ambient,I have only links to mp3 (thanks Trevas for links)

2009 - Inulite ( Rigorism prod. Limited to 100 copies)
http://rapidshare.com/files/328130000/G ... _2009_.rar

2009 - Black Purgatory (self-released)
http://rapidshare.com/files/328122479/G ... _2009_.rar

Predominantly ambient.

Ok!

in "Deep-pression" more Ambient

For such posts this thread is more appropriate: http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... hp?t=14116

Certainly couldn't hurt bringing Deep-pression up in that thread, judging by the stuff of theirs that I've heard (they may have some proper BM stuff I don't know about, not very interested in hearing all their releases).

I resubmit the band, but...

Apparently Amnael stole you the submission of the band. See that with him.

Apparently he stole that other dude's re-submission of Solution .45 too. What an ass.

I have written one review on their music and it is not metal... maybe their early stuff has some metal in it.

Actually mods have to make a rule about this.
Always credit to the original submitter!!
To steal someone's work is not really appreciated !!
It happened with me when My valid submission of black storm got rejected and re submitted after some hours by tueur.
I didnt like to object against it, coz afterall we all work for MA, but sometimes the original submitter and the one who got the first the infos must have the credit for it.
Just an opinion.

Haha, looks like I don't get my Kool points. *shrug*

i tried to add this grind band www.myspace.com/powercupofficial and my submission got rejected, here is a proof the band released something

http://soundcentralstore.com/v4_fr/inde ... 475ccdb707

thanks

Wouldn't help. The band is not metal; just pure grind.

Why Necros (fra) is there when there is no "physical" release even split up there are so many band with nothing and they are there. I want to add Disfiguring the goddess but they don't want to put this fucking band because they don't have the brutal death metal look ? It's enough metal?. What the fucking fuck. Fuck you morrigan and the rest with your fucking rules ! Why Iron maiden is there? It's very far to be metal than a lot of some metal band. Opportunist site of my ass.

Metal-archives are so selective I move to spirit-of-metal.com bye bye

You don't even seem to know what you are talking about. How can you say that a band's releases dating back from 1995 was not physical? Do you think digital release existed 15 years ago?


Says the guy who's going on a site full of ads when this one has none. Right...
Anyway, you'll just fit well there among the hordes of decerebrated and prepubescent french metalheads. Good riddance.

what the fucking fuckity fuck is this fuck fucky talking fuck about fuck?