^covers fixed.

old:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=129573
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=129574
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=129575
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=129576

new:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=210473
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=210474
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=210475
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=210476

edit: taken from the list.

Old:
http://metal-archives.com/release.php?id=189477
New:
http://metal-archives.com/release.php?id=210384

Cleaned. You can delete all small fixes and:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=146589
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=125993

done. I think about sorting the stuff a little bit different.

Upheld / Saving Grace
http://www.metal-archives.com.sixxs.org ... ?id=196194 (old)
http://www.metal-archives.com.sixxs.org ... ?id=210590 (new)
Not modified by me. Please change the title to 'Upheld / Saving Grace' for the new entry.

second list added; see the front page. Now it is has been visualized which bands have wrongly added releases.

Should not this be deleted?
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=106057
was never released.

edit:
not in the list:
old:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=190905
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=195323
new:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=210759

NOT IN LIST
At the time that this was done, the image server was down. Sorry. I will get the album covers up as soon as I am able.

Old Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=92608
New Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=210912
- Add Album Cover.

Old Entry #1: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=159719
Old Entry #2: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=154274
New Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=210916
- Add Album Cover

Old Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=72140
New Entry #1: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=210919
New Entry #2: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=210920
- Remove (FIXED) From The Title

Old Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=198913
New Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=210921
- Add Album Cover

Old Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=170551
New Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=210923
- Remove (FIXED) From The Title, Add Album Cover

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Please Rename This One To "Fresnel / Vancouver":
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=183394

Please Remove This, As It Qualifies As A Compilation (6 Bands):
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=70618

Please Remove This, As I Did Not Realize It Was Already Done:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=210926

Fantastic job on the re-done list, oneyoudontknow!

Thank you. I think it is easier now to see which bands are affected. I contacted Fuck the Facts on the three splits that are wrong; one is the Cakewet one. The label of the "Bloodraised" release also got a mail.

Could mods please start removing the "(FIXED)" from the titles? Many of the Korean splits (which were fine, by the way...people needn't have fixed them) now have the annoying (FIXED) in the split title.

For mod reference, the Korean ones are these four. All of which belong to the same release, and likely needed to be re-done due to irregular track listing:

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=209004
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=209005
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=209006
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=209007

Other than the ones noted in my previous post, these are the only other releases on the site with "FIXED" in their title.

The tracklistings were fine and included in the "Additional Notes" of the release.

Basically, it was done the same way as these "fixed" releases, just the other way around (as in, submitted as a "Split Album" and then with the proper tracklisting in the additional notes). Therefore, they were fine and didn't really need fixing. People may say that this way is more pleasing to the eye, but that doesn't change the fact that the previous information was correct and fine the way it was. That's all I'm saying, is that they really didn't need any "fixing"...you guys just de-uglified them.

It's generally considered better to have the track list corrected to how it appears on the release, and then make a note of which bands do which songs in the additional notes, then it is of making it a normal split organized where the track list incorrectly is given by band, and then has to be reorganized in the additional notes. It makes it more coherent, it's logical, and it rids the release of confusion and clutter.

For what it's worth, a normal split uses up the same number of pages as this way does, and the bands are still linked from each band's release; the only difference is that this way requires more work. It doesn't automatically create a release for each band as in a normal split, it requires the user to go to each band and do it manually instead.

Example 1, therefore, is preferable to Example 2.

Example 1:
Tracks 1,3 by Band X
Tracks 2,4 by Band Y

1. Random Song A
2. Random Song B
3. Random Song C
4. Random Song D

Example 2:

1. Band X - Random Song A
2. Band Y - Random Song B
3. Band X - Random Song C
4. Band Y - Random Song D

Band X
1. Random Song A
2. Random Song C

Band Y
3. Random Song B
4. Random Song D

The only reason (FIXED) is ever added to the title is typically because of two reasons: the system wont allow you to use the same title for the same format, and some users feel more comfortable in making it known that they were fixing an incorrect release, not replicating the album in order to point-whore. Some users also do it as a courtesy to the mods, so that they know for sure which releases are the fixed one, when the incorrect release shares a similar title. The naming of the (FIXED) tag is arbitrary. It could be (DEUGLIFIED) or (READDED), but (FIXED) is generally more compact than those.

additional notes = amount of copies, trivia, labels and the like
tracklist = the tracks in their correct order.

Fair enough, I just thought it was silly to re-do these albums with EXACTLY the same information. EXACTLY.

The problem is: users not familiar with the issue of adding splits properly will try to add them with their best knowledge. They will look for other splits and in case we can provide a great amount of correct ones, the likeliness that new ones are also added the way they meant to be increases.

It is best we try to stick to two particular styles; see what Derigin has written above. No tracklists in the additional notes and a correct order of tracks. The information on the release should be kept as simple as possible but with all necessary information. Too many lead to confusion.

Perigin: Have you already saved the covers from those albums?

Oneyoudontknow: Once again, great job!

I did, yes. Everything is good to go once the image server goes back up.

What is the policy on collaborative albums that bands claim as "split albums" but all their tracks are the two bands working together?

Fullength + some information on the release in the additional notes.

And list it on both band pages right?

Sure.

oneyoudontknow: You can remove the Afterblast split.

you forgot to delete this one.

NOT IN LIST
Old Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=23932
New Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=211580
- Please Remove (FIXED) from the title.

Old Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=72657
New Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=211582

Old Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=102034
New Entry: http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=211583

Deleted.

old:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=159141
new:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=211691

I also got a reply regarding the other two FTF splits; of one the tracklist is unknown, except for the part of FTF, the one with Cakewet is unknown to them.

this demo does not exist:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=203768
I am in touch with the band and asked them to confirm the tracklists on their MA site. There is no such thing as a promo 2003.

this release should also be deleted:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=181620
it is announced for a good time but nothing has happened since. Jig-Ai, whose part is missing in the entry does not even mention the release.

kill this one, too:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=130790
6-way split. Look at the cover.

I can`t delete the first split, because I'm using the public wi-fi from the park across the street and it blocks "pornographic" content. That's the reason why I'm not posting in the Point-whores thread.

Old:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=169023
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=181744
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=212138
New:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=212207


Old:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=206620
New:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=212208

Cleaned to here, including the split that Evenfiel was unable to delete.

and I got confirmed from the band that this release does not exist.

and list cleaned.

I forgot if I had reported this one:
Bloodraised / Gore Crusade
Old
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=161839
New
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=212437

Deleted.

Another one:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=184964 (old)
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=212707 (new)

Deleted.

I updated tracklisting for this album

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=207923

Title should be changed

Cacofonia/Putrid Scum

old
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=96693

new

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=212897

Done.

Old

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=124711

New:

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=213143


+

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=207923

Title should be changed (D:GonzaloMusica has nothing to do with title)

Cacofonia/Putrid Scum

Old (2)

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=178425

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=187640

New:

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=213147

when you use the search function and search for the term 'split' as part of the album title, you get a lot of hits. Should not this term be removed from the title?

I agree with you, and I would even suggest that there are a number of albums whose titles need further clean up; there are some with no spaces, others in all lowercase or uppercase. The problem with this is that it's a lot of work for the very few people who can make the changes, and it's wouldn't be enough justification for us to re-do the whole album entry as incorrect.